Msi gf75 thin 9sc 027 review năm 2024
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Budget gamer. According to MSI the GF75 10SDR-253 might become one of this holiday seasons's best-selling notebooks. You get a six-core CPU, a 144 Hz panel, and a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for less than $1,200. Naturally, we had to take a closer look at this price-performance champ. Show Florian Glaser, 👁 Florian Glaser, ✓ Andrea Grüblinger (translated by Finn D. Boerne), Published 10/14/2020 🇩🇪 🇪🇸 The GF-series is MSI’s series of affordable gaming laptops with an upper mid-range performance rating. At just 2.3 cm (0.9 inches) the GF75, a 17-inch laptop, is not just comparatively thin but of surprisingly high quality (metal surfaces) for a budget gaming laptop. Several months ago, we already had the chance to review the entry-level model 10SCXR, equipped with a Core i5-10300H, 8 GB of RAM, and a GeForce GTX 1650. In this review, we want to take a closer look at the significantly more powerful yet not much more expensive 10DR-253 SKU. It comes with a Core i7-10750H, 16 GB of dual-channel RAM, a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, and a 512 GB large PCIe SSD. Keep in mind that this particular SKU is only available with FreeDOS in some countries. Thankfully, MSI sent us a review unit with Windows 10 Home preloaded. Given that the chassis is identical to the previously reviewed 2019 model we are not going to discuss case, connectivity, and input devices in this review. Please refer to our previous GF75 8RD review should you be interested to find out more. Processor Intel Core i7-10750H 6 x 2.6 - 5 GHz, 200 W PL2 / Short Burst, 200 W PL1 / Sustained, Comet Lake-H Memory 16 GB , 2x 8 GB SO-DIMM DDR4-2666, dual-channel, all slots populated, max. 64 GB Display 17.30 inch 16:9, 1920 x 1080 pixel 127 PPI, B173HAN04.9 (AUO978F), IPS, FHD, glossy: no, 144 Hz Soundcard Realtek ALC233 @ Intel Comet Point PCH - cAVS Connections 4 USB 3.0 / 3.1 Gen1, 1 HDMI, 1 Kensington Lock, Audio Connections: 1x headphones, 1x microphone Networking Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (10/100/1000MBit/s), Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (a/b/g/h/n = Wi-Fi 4/ac = Wi-Fi 5/ax = Wi-Fi 6/), Bluetooth 5.0 Size height x width x depth (in mm): 23 x 397 x 260 ( = 0.91 x 15.63 x 10.24 in) Battery 51 Wh Lithium-Ion, 3-cell Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Additional features Speakers: 2.0, Keyboard: Chiclet, Keyboard Light: yes, 180 W power supply, Dragon Center, 24 Months Warranty Weight 2.23 kg ( = 78.66 oz / 4.92 pounds), Power Supply: 632 g ( = 22.29 oz / 1.39 pounds) Note: The manufacturer may use components from different suppliers including display panels, drives or memory sticks with similar specifications. Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR DIN A4 403.5 mm / 15.9 inch 280 mm / 11 inch 24.9 mm / 0.98 inch 2.2 kg4.85 lbs399 mm / 15.7 inch 269 mm / 10.6 inch 26 mm / 1.024 inch 2.6 kg5.73 lbs397 mm / 15.6 inch 269 mm / 10.6 inch 27.5 mm / 1.083 inch 2.6 kg5.78 lbs397 mm / 15.6 inch 260 mm / 10.2 inch 23.1 mm / 0.909 inch 2.2 kg4.78 lbs397 mm / 15.6 inch 260 mm / 10.2 inch 23 mm / 0.906 inch 2.2 kg4.92 lbs297 mm / 11.7 inch 210 mm / 8.27 inch 1 mm / 0.03937 inch 5.7 g0.01257 lbs 13.4 ∆E 12.6 ∆E 11 ∆E 5 ∆E 14.1 ∆E 13.7 ∆E 10.8 ∆E 13.7 ∆E 13.9 ∆E 10.4 ∆E 6.1 ∆E 6 ∆E 10.1 ∆E 7 ∆E 15 ∆E 4.6 ∆E 12.6 ∆E 16.5 ∆E 2.3 ∆E 14 ∆E 15 ∆E 12.8 ∆E 11.8 ∆E 16.2 ∆E ColorChecker MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR: 11.2 ∆E min: 2.33 - max: 16.5 ∆E Despite their similar model numbers, the GF75 10SDR-253 comes with a different panel than the GF75 10SCXR. Instead of a 120 Hz display the new device is equipped with a 144 Hz display with similar specs. This means that in addition to comparatively high response times its maximum brightness was also mediocre at best. An average of 250 nits is barely good enough for indoor use and certainly not meant to be used outdoors. Thanks to its low black level of just 0.23 nits the 17-inch device offers a decent contrast ratio of 1100:1. As is common in budget gaming laptops color space coverage is very low at just 59 and 41 % for sRGB and AdobeRGB, respectively. Compare that to the more expensive 17-inch GE75 Raider 10SE with almost 100 % sRGB coverage. As expected of an IPS panel we found no faults with the display’s viewing angles. 263 cd/m²258 cd/m²258 cd/m²260 cd/m²252 cd/m²248 cd/m²252 cd/m²245 cd/m²241 cd/m² Distribution of brightness B173HAN04.9 (AUO978F) tested with X-Rite i1Pro 2 Maximum: 263 cd/m² (Nits) Average: 253 cd/m² Minimum: 4 cd/m² Brightness Distribution: 92 % Center on Battery: 252 cd/m² Contrast: 1096:1 (Black: 0.23 cd/m²) ΔE Color 4.24 | 0.5-29.43 Ø5.1, calibrated: 3.64 ΔE Greyscale 2.8 | 0.57-98 Ø5.3 59% sRGB (Argyll 1.6.3 3D) 41% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 1.6.3 3D) 41.31% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D) 59.9% sRGB (Argyll 2.2.0 3D) 39.98% Display P3 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D) Gamma: 2.196 MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR B173HAN04.9 (AUO978F), IPS, 1920x1080, 17.30MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR AU Optronics B173HAN04.7, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.30Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 BOE NV173FHM-NX1, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.30Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS AU Optronics B173HAN04.7, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.30MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Chi Mei N173HCE-G33, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.30Display -2% 1% -1% 64% Display P3 Coverage 39.98 39.46 -1% 40.55 1% 39.47 -1% 65.6 64% sRGB Coverage 59.9 58.4 -3% 59.7 0% 58.9 -2% 98.1 64% AdobeRGB 1998 Coverage 41.31 40.77 -1% 41.89 1% 40.77 -1% 67.8 64% Response Times 8% 36% 8% 75% Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% * 38.4 (18, 20.4) 34 (18, 16) 11% 22.4 (11.6, 10.8) 42% 35 (17, 18) 9% 6.8 (3.4, 3.4) 82% Response Time Black / White * 27.6 (14.8, 12.8) 26.4 (15.6, 10.8) 4% 19.2 (9.6, 9.6) 30% 26 (14, 12) 6% 8.8 (4.4, 4.4) 68% PWM Frequency 25000 (18) Screen -13% -3% -19% 31% Brightness middle 252 251.2 0% 264.8 5% 263 4% 337.9 34% Brightness 253 242 -4% 253 0% 246 -3% 305 21% Brightness Distribution 92 92 0% 90 -2% 85 -8% 81 -12% Black Level * 0.23 0.34 -48% 0.31 -35% 0.47 -104% 0.29 -26% Contrast 1096 739 -33% 854 -22% 560 -49% 1165 6% Colorchecker dE 2000 * 4.24 4.5 -6% 4.73 -12% 5.07 -20% 2.18 49% Colorchecker dE 2000 max. * 21.4 20 7% 18.89 12% 20.5 4% 3.9 82% Colorchecker dE 2000 calibrated * 3.64 3.91 -7% 4.64 -27% 4.9 -35% 0.69 81% Greyscale dE 2000 * 2.8 4 -43% 1.4 50% 2.55 9% 3.1 -11% Gamma 2.196 100% 2.25 98% 2.16 102% 2.37 93% 2.07 106% CCT 7027 93% 5882 111% 6641 98% 6446 101% 6882 94% Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998) 41 37.3 -9% 38.4 -6% 37 -10% 62 51% Color Space (Percent of sRGB) 59 58.1 -2% 59.3 1% 59 0% 98.2 66% Total Average (Program / Settings) -2% /-8% 11% /2% -4% /-13% 57% /43% * ... smaller is better Display Response Timesℹ Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times. ↔ Response Time Black to White27.6 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 14.8 ms rise ↘ 12.8 ms fallThe screen shows relatively slow response rates in our tests and may be too slow for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.1 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 65 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (21.8 ms). ↔ Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey38.4 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 18 ms rise ↘ 20.4 ms fallThe screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.2 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 51 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (34.2 ms). Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)ℹ To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether. Screen flickering / PWM not detected In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 18631 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 3846000) Hz was measured. MSI’s Dragon Center allows for a huge variety of system settings adjustments. For the course of this review, we had it set to Balanced (see screenshots). Despite the fact that the GTX 1660 Ti lacks its bigger brother’s hardware ray tracing capabilities the GF75 10SDR is a full-fledged gaming notebook capable of running almost all current games smoothly at the display’s native resolution of 1920 x 1080 and maximum details. Its hexa-core CPU and 16 GB of RAM should be more than plenty for the foreseeable future. Should you require additional storage there is an empty 2.5-inch slot for an extra drive in addition to the M.2 SSD. Intel’s Core i7-10750H is a member of the Comet Lake generation of CPUs and supports up to 12 threads simultaneously thanks to Hyperthreading. Its base clock speed of 2.6 GHz can turbo boost up to 5 GHz under load. As our CineBench results showed the CPU does not fully utilize its turbo boost potential, at least with Balanced mode enabled. In the single-thread test it ran at between 4.2 to 4.7 GHz, and dropped from its initial 4.2 GHz to 3.5 to 3.6 GHz in the multi-thread test. Its scores placed the GF75 10SDR behind its 10750H-equipped competitors, such as the Acer Nitro 5 or the MSI GE75, albeit the differences were so minor they should be negligible, especially when running games. 07014021028035042049056063070077084091098010501120119012601330Tooltip Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64BitAverage of class Gaming (79.2 - 312, n=241, last 2 years) 262 Points +32% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 198 Points Average Intel Core i7-10750H (184 - 213, n=45) 196.7 Points -1% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 195.8 Points -1% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 189 Points -5% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 189 Points -5% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 180 Points -9% CPU Multi 64BitAverage of class Gaming (400 - 5663, n=242, last 2 years) 2896 Points +134% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 1816 (1724.58min - 1815.79max) Points +47% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 1347 (1253.05min - 1347.16max) Points +9% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 1308 Points +6% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (804 - 1418, n=50) 1263 Points +2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 1238 (1143.02min - 1237.66max) Points MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 839 (755.39min - 839.42max) Points -32% Blender - v2.79 BMW27 CPUMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 555 Seconds * -43% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (322 - 587, n=43) 389 Seconds * -0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 388 Seconds * Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 379.1 Seconds * +2% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 347 Seconds * +11% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 271 Seconds * +30% Average of class Gaming (87 - 1259, n=234, last 2 years) 212 Seconds * +45% 7-Zip 18.03 7z b 4 -mmt1Average of class Gaming (2685 - 7581, n=234, last 2 years) 5990 MIPS +18% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (4504 - 5470, n=43) 5114 MIPS +1% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 5086 MIPS 0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 5076 MIPS MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 5026 MIPS -1% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 4717 MIPS -7% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 4662 MIPS -8% 7z b 4Average of class Gaming (11386 - 140932, n=233, last 2 years) 72437 MIPS +117% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 48837 MIPS +46% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 36370 MIPS +9% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (26040 - 37345, n=43) 33946 MIPS +1% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 33456 MIPS Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 32386 MIPS -3% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 22139 MIPS -34% Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)Average of class Gaming (169 - 825, n=236, last 2 years) 682 Points +46% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 478 Points +2% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 477 Points +2% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (431 - 504, n=43) 473 Points +1% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 467 Points MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 460 Points -1% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 437 Points -6% CPU (Multi Core)Average of class Gaming (930 - 13769, n=236, last 2 years) 6927 Points +147% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 4132 Points +48% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 3178 Points +13% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 2888 Points +3% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (1749 - 3325, n=43) 2848 Points +2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 2801 Points MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 1906 Points -32% Geekbench 5.5 Single-CoreAverage of class Gaming (158 - 2139, n=240, last 2 years) 1768 Points +36% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 1301 Points Average Intel Core i7-10750H (1114 - 1333, n=43) 1263 Points -3% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 1227 Points -6% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 1219 Points -6% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 1189 Points -9% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 1143 Points -12% Multi-CoreAverage of class Gaming (1946 - 22200, n=240, last 2 years) 12850 Points +102% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 7782 Points +22% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 6358 Points Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 6317 Points -1% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 6298 Points -1% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (4443 - 6674, n=43) 6135 Points -4% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 4032 Points -37% HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k PresetAverage of class Gaming (3 - 37.6, n=237, last 2 years) 20 fps +112% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 12.2 fps +29% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 10.5 fps +11% Average Intel Core i7-10750H (5.54 - 11.6, n=43) 9.61 fps +2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 9.45 fps Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 9.41 fps 0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 6.34 fps -33% LibreOffice - 20 Documents To PDFAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 61.4 s * -13% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 58.9 s * -9% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 55.3 s * -2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 54.1 s * Average Intel Core i7-10750H (43.1 - 99.2, n=43) 53.3 s * +1% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 50.2 s * +7% Average of class Gaming (32.8 - 332, n=232, last 2 years) 49.3 s * +9% R Benchmark 2.5 - Overall meanMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR Intel Core i5-10300H 0.676 sec * -10% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS Intel Core i7-10750H 0.626 sec * -2% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Intel Core i7-10750H 0.617 sec * -0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Intel Core i7-10750H 0.615 sec * Average Intel Core i7-10750H (0.578 - 0.708, n=42) 0.611 sec * +1% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 0.596 sec * +3% Average of class Gaming (0.375 - 4.47, n=234, last 2 years) 0.4795 sec * +22% * ... smaller is better Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit 1238 Points Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit 142 fps Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit 99.6 % Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit 198 Points Help Our system performance benchmarks see the 17-inch device somewhere in the middle of its comparison group. Subjectively, it performed very smoothly and snappy, and should be usable for pretty much any and all use case scenarios. PCMark 10 - ScoreAverage of class Gaming (4477 - 9852, n=202, last 2 years) 7476 Points +37% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ 6268 Points +15% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, R7 4800H, Intel SSD 660p 1TB SSDPEKNW010T8 5617 Points +3% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-10750H, Samsung PM991 MZVLQ512HALU 5441 Points Average Intel Core i7-10750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (5241 - 5594, n=3) 5425 Points 0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-10300H, WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G 5301 Points -3% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H, WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-1T00 5201 Points -4% Latencies were certainly not one of the device’s strong suits. According to LatencyMon real-time processing of audio and video content can be troublesome, albeit still less so than on some of its significantly worse performing competitors. DPC Latencies / LatencyMon - interrupt to process latency (max), Web, Youtube, Prime95Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, R7 4800H, Intel SSD 660p 1TB SSDPEKNW010T8 8852 μs * -630% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-10300H, WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G 2952 μs * -144% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ 1218 μs * -0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-10750H, Samsung PM991 MZVLQ512HALU 1212 μs * Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H, WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-1T00 675 μs * +44% * ... smaller is better The storage device of MSI’s choosing is a 512 GB large Samsung PM991 M.2 SSD. It offers a decent performance and should be more than fast enough for most users. MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Samsung PM991 MZVLQ512HALUMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512GAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 Intel SSD 660p 1TB SSDPEKNW010T8Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-1T00MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQCrystalDiskMark 5.2 / 6 9% 23% 16% 36% Write 4K 138.8 140.7 1% 189.7 37% 140 1% 139.2 0% Read 4K 50.6 43.18 -15% 62.3 23% 49.04 -3% 53 5% Write Seq 1032 1829 77% 1681 63% 1963 90% 1950 89% Read Seq 1199 1095 -9% 1608 34% 1455 21% 2328 94% Write 4K Q32T1 464.6 431.7 -7% 468.6 1% 398.2 -14% 408.9 -12% Read 4K Q32T1 550 527 -4% 541 -2% 461.9 -16% 551 0% Write Seq Q32T1 1216 1831 51% 1770 46% 1969 62% 1938 59% Read Seq Q32T1 2275 1708 -25% 1898 -17% 1927 -15% 3467 52% CDM 5/6 Read Seq Q32T1: 2275 MB/s CDM 5/6 Write Seq Q32T1: 1216 MB/s CDM 5/6 Read 4K Q32T1: 550 MB/s CDM 5/6 Write 4K Q32T1: 464.6 MB/s CDM 5 Read Seq: 1199 MB/s CDM 5 Write Seq: 1032 MB/s CDM 5/6 Read 4K: 50.6 MB/s CDM 5/6 Write 4K: 138.8 MB/s When looking at GPUs purely from a price-performance perspective the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti is hard to beat. This particular DirectX 12 Turing-family GPU features 1,536 shaders and 6 GB of GDDR6 video RAM connected via a 192-bit interface. In our 3DMark benchmarks the GF75 10SDR performed slightly slower than the similarly equipped Asus TUF A17. RTX 2060-equipped notebooks are between 10 to 20 % faster on average while those with GTX 1650 are around 30 % slower. 3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPUAverage of class Gaming (1029 - 72070, n=233, last 2 years) 38644 Points +94% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 24617 Points +24% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 20793 Points +5% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 20511 Points +3% Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (18610 - 22670, n=24) 20096 Points +1% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 19893 Points MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile 13168 Points -34% 3DMark1920x1080 Fire Strike GraphicsAverage of class Gaming (781 - 53059, n=239, last 2 years) 28447 Points +91% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 18114 Points +21% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 15642 Points +5% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 15334 Points +3% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 14928 Points Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (14186 - 16488, n=24) 14867 Points 0% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile 9621 Points -36% 2560x1440 Time Spy GraphicsAverage of class Gaming (224 - 22547, n=237, last 2 years) 11483 Points +108% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 6732 Points +22% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 5744 Points +4% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 5736 Points +4% Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (5335 - 6123, n=22) 5653 Points +2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 5530 Points MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile 3461 Points -37% 2560x1440 Port Royal GraphicsAverage of class Gaming (280 - 14457, n=157, last 2 years) 7437 Points +386% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 3744 Points +145% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile 3296 Points +115% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile 1530 Points Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (1097 - 1540, n=7) 1426 Points -7% 3DMark 11 Performance 17704 points3DMark Fire Strike Score 13396 points3DMark Time Spy Score 5677 points Help We ran The Witcher 3 in a 60-minute loop in order to determine the GF75’s sustained 3D load capabilities and are able to report that its GPU clock speeds remained fairly consistent at around 1,600 MHz. 051015202530354045505560Tooltip MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-10750H, Samsung PM991 MZVLQ512HALU: Ø55.9 (52-60) The GTX 1660 Ti offers more than enough performance to run even demanding games in full details at the panel’s native FHD resolution, extremes such as Microsoft’s Flight Simulator excluded. Given that many games are capable of running at more than 60 FPS the 144 Hz display definitely pays off. The Witcher 31920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off)Average of class Gaming (17.5 - 449, n=175, last 2 years) 205 fps +93% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H 123.9 (118min - 129max) fps +17% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H 108.9 fps +3% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-10750H 106 (87min) fps Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (93 - 120.4, n=17) 104.7 fps -1% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, R7 4800H 103 (98min - 108max) fps -3% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-10300H 70.4 fps -34% 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)Average of class Gaming (8.61 - 216, n=236, last 2 years) 110.8 fps +96% MSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H 65.9 (61min - 72max) fps +16% Acer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, i7-10750H 63 fps +11% MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-10750H 56.6 (47min) fps Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile (51.6 - 65.1, n=21) 56.2 fps -1% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, R7 4800H 55.6 (53min - 60max) fps -2% MSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-10300H 37.7 fps -33% Truth be told the fans could have used some extra fine tuning. Even when idle the GF75 10SDR produces a rather annoying soundscape at a very audible 35 to 39 dB(A). Most competitors are significantly quieter under similar conditions. Under load the device played by the rules, and its sound pressure level of between 44 and 46 dB(A) was very similar to that produced by the Acer Nitro 5 AN517, and subsequently placed the 17-inch laptop in the middle of the pack. At the very bottom we find devices such as the Asus TUF A17 and the MSI GE75 producing more than 50 dB(A) when subjected to 3D load. dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2043.440.24241.141.741.92539.23740.939.338.940.63148.350.15449.643.845.74031.933.836.733.53131.65039.539.939.44031.339.76345.638.634.627.831.145.58040.430.132.628.619.939.310027.623.924.421.721.828.612525.827.325.420.520.22716029.934.526.929.320.52920044.531.435.444.426.339.825033.926.425.226.419.132.431532.520.322.321.71535.940030.22121.919.813.335.650031.224.33227.712.735.763035.434.532.433.211.935.580035.534.129.225.11135100034.327.12421.511.335.7125034.827.624.721.811.336.6160035.526.821.818.811.837.2200037.124.720.218.211.737.7250032.52218.116.112.13331503120.215.914.712.431.6400029.918.916.215.712.931.2500028.418.816.615.413.429.6630024.816.11514.513.426.480002719.317.716.413.528.41000018.41413.713.31318.91250017131312.812.516.61600015.512.412.412.211.815.4SPL45.438.636.43725.346.3N5.42.92.42.50.75.7median 31median 23.9median 21.9median 19.8median 12.9median 32.4Delta4.34.25.45.42.24.6hearing rangehide median Fan NoiseMSI GF75 Thin 10SDR Noise Level Idle 35 / 37 / 39 dB(A) Load 45 / 46 dB(A) 30 dB silent 40 dB(A) audible 50 dB(A) loud min: MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR i7-10750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR i5-10300H, GeForce GTX 1650 MobileAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 R7 4800H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileAcer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileMSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileAverage of class Gaming Noise 6% 2% 6% 2% 11% off / environment * 25 28.4 -14% 28.7 -15% 30.2 -21% 28.4 -14% 24.1 (19.5 - 29.9, n=189, last 2 years) 4% Idle Minimum * 35 33 6% 28.7 18% 30.2 14% 30.2 14% 25.5 (21.9 - 41.6, n=190, last 2 years) 27% Idle Average * 37 33 11% 30.5 18% 30.2 18% 30.2 18% 27.2 (21.9 - 42.1, n=190, last 2 years) 26% Idle Maximum * 39 33.1 15% 32.5 17% 30.2 23% 32 18% 30.7 (21.9 - 47.2, n=191, last 2 years) 21% Load Average * 45 37.7 16% 42.5 6% 41.5 8% 33.2 26% 43.3 (26.8 - 62.9, n=190, last 2 years) 4% Witcher 3 ultra * 44 39.2 11% 50.1 -14% 44.5 -1% 55 -25% Load Maximum * 46 46 -0% 53.4 -16% 44.6 3% 55 -20% 53.2 (41 - 68.2, n=191, last 2 years) -16% * ... smaller is better Considering its powerful hardware, we found the laptop’s surface temperatures to be okay overall. After 60 minutes of maximum load running Prime95 and FurMark simultaneously we were able to measure 51 °C at the top and 53 °C at the bottom of the case. When idle, the entire case remained very cool at just around 25 °C. Looking at its internal temperatures we find that the CPU in particular was struggling hard with its thermals. Despite a disabled turbo boost the Core i7-10750H peaked at more than 90 °C in our stress test, with the GPU following suit at a similarly hot 88 °C. 51 °C 124 F48 °C 118 F48 °C 118 F 42 °C 108 F45 °C 113 F43 °C 109 F 35 °C 95 F35 °C 95 F33 °C 91 F Maximum: 51 °C = 124 F Average: 42.2 °C = 108 F 49 °C 120 F53 °C 127 F49 °C 120 F37 °C 99 F43 °C 109 F38 °C 100 F30 °C 86 F32 °C 90 F30 °C 86 F Maximum: 53 °C = 127 F Average: 40.1 °C = 104 F Power Supply (max.) 43 °C = 109 F | Room Temperature 20 °C = 68 F | Fluke t3000FC (calibrated), Voltcraft IR-900 (-) The average temperature for the upper side under maximal load is 42.2 °C / 108 F, compared to the average of 33.9 °C / 93 F for the devices in the class Gaming. (-) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 51 °C / 124 F, compared to the average of 40.4 °C / 105 F, ranging from 21.2 to 68.8 °C for the class Gaming. (-) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 53 °C / 127 F, compared to the average of 43.2 °C / 110 F (+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 24.7 °C / 76 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F. (-) Playing The Witcher 3, the average temperature for the upper side is 40.2 °C / 104 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F. (+) The palmrests and touchpad are reaching skin temperature as a maximum (35 °C / 95 F) and are therefore not hot. (-) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 28.9 °C / 84 F (-6.1 °C / -11 F). MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR i7-10750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR i5-10300H, GeForce GTX 1650 MobileAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 R7 4800H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileAcer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileMSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileAverage of class Gaming Heat -18% -9% -5% -18% -11% Maximum Upper Side * 51 42 18% 47.6 7% 50.6 1% 44.2 13% 46.5 (28.2 - 61, n=190, last 2 years) 9% Maximum Bottom * 53 53.4 -1% 50.8 4% 53.8 -2% 49 8% 50 (30 - 68, n=190, last 2 years) 6% Idle Upper Side * 25 34.2 -37% 33 -32% 26.6 -6% 33.6 -34% 31.6 (21.2 - 43, n=189, last 2 years) -26% Idle Bottom * 25 37.4 -50% 29 -16% 27.8 -11% 39.6 -58% 32.8 (22.6 - 45, n=189, last 2 years) -31% * ... smaller is better dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2041.741.82538.942.43143.858.4403138.95031.339.96331.135.38019.931.310021.824.912520.237.816020.54920026.357.525019.167.1315156640013.366.250012.768.763011.970.58001169.1100011.364125011.371160011.870.7200011.765.4250012.167.6315012.467.7400012.963.4500013.473.2630013.470.3800013.567.4100001366.91250012.566.11600011.862.2SPL25.381N0.753.1median 12.9median 66.9Delta2.25.540.938.840.936.734.436.734.633.634.634.733.434.732.531.832.530.936.130.932.829.932.835.429.635.438.528.538.543.927.343.945.626.445.651.726.551.755.726.355.760.726.560.764.427.364.466.225.966.267.523.867.563.422.463.462.123.662.156.524.756.557.925.457.962.325.762.362.122.662.159.62259.664.221.964.258.822.158.855.922.655.955.822.655.852.422.852.445.222.945.27436.17434.12.634.1median 57.9median 24.7median 57.96.31.96.3hearing rangehide median Pink NoiseMSI GF75 Thin 10SDRAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 Frequency diagram (checkboxes can be checked and unchecked to compare devices) MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR audio analysis(±) | speaker loudness is average but good (81 dB) Bass 100 - 315 Hz (-) | nearly no bass - on average 16.6% lower than median (-) | bass is not linear (15.4% delta to prev. frequency) Mids 400 - 2000 Hz (+) | balanced mids - only 2.6% away from median (+) | mids are linear (5.5% delta to prev. frequency) Highs 2 - 16 kHz (+) | balanced highs - only 2.2% away from median (+) | highs are linear (6% delta to prev. frequency) Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz (+) | overall sound is linear (12.5% difference to median) Compared to same class » 13% of all tested devices in this class were better, 3% similar, 84% worse » The best had a delta of 7%, average was 18%, worst was 132% Compared to all devices tested » 8% of all tested devices were better, 2% similar, 90% worse » The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134% Asus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 audio analysis(±) | speaker loudness is average but good (74 dB) Bass 100 - 315 Hz (±) | reduced bass - on average 12.7% lower than median (±) | linearity of bass is average (11.5% delta to prev. frequency) Mids 400 - 2000 Hz (+) | balanced mids - only 4.8% away from median (±) | linearity of mids is average (9.1% delta to prev. frequency) Highs 2 - 16 kHz (+) | balanced highs - only 3.1% away from median (±) | linearity of highs is average (8.7% delta to prev. frequency) Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz (±) | linearity of overall sound is average (23.5% difference to median) Compared to same class » 82% of all tested devices in this class were better, 5% similar, 13% worse » The best had a delta of 7%, average was 18%, worst was 132% Compared to all devices tested » 65% of all tested devices were better, 7% similar, 28% worse » The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134% Thanks to dynamic graphics switching (Nvidia Optimus) the GF75 turned out to be fairly energy efficient when idle. An average of 8 to 15 W is comparatively low for a gaming laptop. With enabled GeForce GTX 1660 Ti under load we were able to record between 95 and 193 W of power consumption, which is fairly similar to the Acer Nitro 5. MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR i7-10750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR i5-10300H, GeForce GTX 1650 MobileAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 R7 4800H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MobileAcer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileMSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 MobileAverage of class Gaming Power Consumption -17% -2% 9% -55% -56% Idle Minimum * 8 13 -63% 7.4 7% 5.4 32% 14.7 -84% 13.8 (2 - 64, n=189, last 2 years) -73% Idle Average * 10 15.7 -57% 10.5 -5% 9.8 2% 20.4 -104% 19.1 (6.5 - 67, n=189, last 2 years) -91% Idle Maximum * 15 21 -40% 17 -13% 10.9 27% 26.9 -79% 26.1 (8.9 - 101.1, n=188, last 2 years) -74% Load Average * 95 87 8% 103.7 -9% 104 -9% 93.2 2% 111.4 (32.1 - 202, n=189, last 2 years) -17% Witcher 3 ultra * 133 96.4 28% 128.1 4% 134.3 -1% 185.4 -39% Load Maximum * 193 145.8 24% 183.2 5% 193 -0% 237.8 -23% 246 (64.5 - 418, n=188, last 2 years) -27% * ... smaller is better Battery life is neither here nor there. Our Wi-Fi test at medium display brightness saw the GF75 Thin run out of juice after almost exactly four hours. Battery life could have been improved with a more powerful battery, especially considering that 51 Wh are fairly poor compared to its competitors. Battery Runtime Idle (without WLAN, min brightness)7h 15minWiFi Websurfing3h 58minLoad (maximum brightness)0h 57min MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR i7-10750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, 51 WhMSI GF75 Thin 10SCXR i5-10300H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, 51 WhAsus TUF A17 FA706IU-AS76 R7 4800H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, 90 WhAcer Nitro 5 AN517-52-77DS i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, 57.48 WhMSI GE75 Raider 10SE-008US i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile, 65 WhAverage of class Gaming Battery Runtime 12% 128% 76% -7% 44% Reader / Idle 435 463 6% 543 25% 661 52% 548 (57 - 1290, n=88, last 2 years) 26% WiFi v1.3 238 283 19% 512 115% 396 66% 222 -7% 364 (57 - 745, n=185, last 2 years) 53% Load 57 63 11% 196 244% 120 111% 87.3 (36 - 228, n=153, last 2 years) 53% H.264 439 383 (56 - 747, n=99, last 2 years) Pros
Cons- battery life could be better - low color-space coverage - unpleasant fan noise - poor connectivity The GF75 10SDR-253 is made for gamers looking for ultimate performance at a price point of less than $1,200. The GeForce GTX 1660 Ti is much faster than the GTX 1650 (Ti) that is usually found in similarly priced notebooks. Its CPU performance is also impressive, although we would have wished for a Ryzen 5 4600H instead of the Core i7-10750H, which would have been not only potentially faster but also more efficient, cooler, and therefore also quieter thanks to its 7 nm (compared to 14 nm) manufacturing process. The rest of the hardware was adequate. 16 GB of RAM, an M.2 PCIe SSD, and a 144 Hz panel are up to date. A higher rating could have been achieved with better connectivity (no Thunderbolt 3, no card reader, no DisplayPort), better fan management, and a higher-capacity battery. The Scrooge McDucks among us will still find it hard to resist. Considering that a Windows 10 license can be purchased for around $50 already the fact that the device ships without one in some countries is only going to be problematic for inexperienced beginners. MSI GF75 Thin 10SDR- 10/06/2020 v7 Florian Glaser Pointing Device 75 / 10-66 → 100% Connectivity 52 / 95 → 55% Games Performance 90 / 90 → 100% Application Performance 90% Gaming - Weighted Average PricecompareEditor of the original article: Sebastian Jentsch - Managing Editor Consumer Laptops - 1753 articles published on Notebookcheck since 2010 Computers always had an important place in my life, starting with an Intel 80286 microprocessor in the early 1990s. I became interested in the productive side of technology, especially in campus radio, while studying at TU Chemnitz and during a trainee program in Belfast. Hardware interests led me to manage Notebookjournal.de, which is now a division of Notebooksbilliger, for a few years. I became self-employed in 2010 and took the next logical step in my career by starting to write for Notebookcheck. Born in the United States and raised in Germany I became acquainted with both languages from an early age and turned this into my profession later in life. Computers have always played an important role in my life, and my love for all things digital is a huge part of my daily routine. Virtual Reality has captured my imagination and interest in particular, and I cannot wait to see what the (near) future will bring. Is MSI GF75 Thin good for gaming?The GF series are affordable gaming laptops for budget gamers. What I got here is the MSI GF75 Thin 10S, a bigger full sized laptop that should be good both for gaming and content creation without spending much. The machine I got here is powered by Intel i5 10th gen processor and GTX 1650 GPU. What is the refresh rate of MSI GF75 Thin 9sc?A fast 120 Hz refresh rate that helps to reduce stutter and blur for a more fluid gaming experience. Are MSI thin laptops good?Its exceptional performance, stunning display, efficient cooling system, comfortable keyboard, and solid build quality make it a top-tier choice for any gaming enthusiast. If you're looking for a gaming laptop that delivers on both power and portability, I highly recommend giving this one a try. It's a game-changer! When did the MSI GF75 come out?MSI GF75 Thin Full Specifications. |
