Is 95% GPU usage good?

Is 95% GPU usage good?
vanhouten_czPosts: 112Joined: 03 Mar 2017 15:09Contact:
Hi,

it is only question. I have i5-2500k @4.4 Ghz, 16 Gb RAM, GTX 1660 Super 6 GB, SSD drive and when I start game, GPU usage is between 95-100% nonstop. I use ultra graphic settings, 400% scale, but I am playing on older TV with HD ready resolution 1366x768 px. In game I have stable 120 fps in open country, in cities around 70-90 fps. CPU usage is around 50-60%, VRAM cca 3000-3500 Mb, but GPU is on 95-100% at @1830 mhz. Due this is temperature above 80 degrees and fans are on very high speed.

I tried many other games but there is GPU usage to 80% and temps minus 20 degrees - for example - GTA 5, BF5, Dirt Rally 2, etc - all on max settings.

Yes, I am using mods, but without them is situation same.

Do anyone same problem? It is problem? Or I have to find error on my side?

usage and temps with alternative fans on GPU. Stock fans were around 83 degrees and around 2200 rpm

Is 95% GPU usage good?

PS: I had same problem with Radeon RX470 4 GB

Last edited by vanhouten_cz on 28 Jan 2021 16:09, edited 1 time in total.

Some newbie driverPosts: 6141Joined: 12 Dec 2018 11:37

There's absolutely no problem that a GPU is working at the 100%. The problem would be if the usage would be so high but the performance poor.

But in your case, you say you have over 70FPS at least so your performance is most than OK.

Aside of that, such big values of FPS are useless if you are playing on an old TV with low resolution. There's no benefit at all and that's what causes the unnecessary extra heat. Active vertical sync on the game so you cap your GPU to work at most at 60FPS, as your TV for sure isn't going to have a refresh rate over 60Hz.

Your visual experience will not change at all but your GPU will work less trying to render frames that anyway are unusable by the TV.

Regards


Is 95% GPU usage good?
vanhouten_czPosts: 112Joined: 03 Mar 2017 15:09Contact:

@Some newbie driver you are right. I try to activate Vsync a I will see. But I cant understand that GPU behavior. Why is ETS using so much GPU, while other (newer) games not. But in our local FB group, many people have same problem also. And also with better GPUs. I am not sure that ETS2 is so hardware intensive, that can use all performance of GTX 1080 and better.

I am satified with good performance in ETS, but noise of stock fans on GPU are overkill(Gigabyte windforce). Now I have own option - 2x 92mm PWM fans and temperatures are 20 degrees below stock fans with low noise.


Is 95% GPU usage good?
plykkegaardPosts: 7197Joined: 26 Oct 2014 13:42Contact:
400% scaling can have something to do with it
Nice CPU / clock speed, the game will benefit

Is 95% GPU usage good?
vanhouten_czPosts: 112Joined: 03 Mar 2017 15:09Contact:
plykkegaard wrote: 400% scaling can have something to do with it
I am using scaling almost in all games (there where is scaling available) - FS19, ARMA3 etc. and I haven´t these problems.

btw: I can overclocked this CPU to stable 5.1 Ghzgood piece of silicon


watoPosts: 116Joined: 06 Jul 2020 11:24

Sounds like the GPU is fully utilized to be able to run 70 fps at effectively 4K resolution (due to scaling).

Would you rather have the GPU not working to its full potential (like possibly in the other games you mention)?


Is 95% GPU usage good?
vanhouten_czPosts: 112Joined: 03 Mar 2017 15:09Contact:
wato wrote: Sounds like the GPU is fully utilized to be able to run 70 fps at effectively 4K resolution (due to scaling).

Would you rather have the GPU not working to its full potential (like possibly in the other games you mention)?

I am playing on TV @1366*768 px, so due scaling I am at QHD (2720*1440) not at 4K. I want to understand WHY ETS is using so much GPU. Because it isnt only on my GPU. I had same problem on older RX470, my friends have same problem on GPUs like GTX1080, or RTX2080. Do you think that ETS2 is so hardware intensive? Isnt it only bad optimalisation?

I really never had 90%+ GPU usage and temperature above 85°C in any other game. Working on full potential is good, but temperature is so high, that GPU is automatically underclocking to lower frequency. I would understand that GPU do this when settings are too high for this GPU, but on ultra settings + 400% scaling I have average more than 100 fps. If GPU is too weak for this setting, so FPS will be much lower.

I want to say - game is using GPU more than is needed - my opinion.

Funny side of this: I buy better GPU (GTX 1660 Super instead of RX 470), because I need silent PC (I have ultra low noise computer - big tower from Fractal, many 140mm Noctua case fans, huge CPU cooler, HDD on rubber slings in 5,25" positions etc and ultra high noise GPU). I think that RX470 is to weak for my settings. I change GPU and situation is same85 degrees and 3000 rpms on GPU fansSo only solution is use own GPU fans, but I lost my warranty on GPU :-/


watoPosts: 116Joined: 06 Jul 2020 11:24
vanhouten_cz wrote: I am playing on TV @1366*768 px, so due scaling I am at QHD (2720*1440) not at 4K.
Right, I assumed it scales each axis x4 but it seems that 400% refers to the total amount of pixels as you say.
vanhouten_cz wrote: Do you think that ETS2 is so hardware intensive? Isnt it only bad optimalisation?
Hm, the combination of QHD, GTX 1660 Super, > 100 FPS, and 100% GPU utilization makes sense to me but I don't have deeper insight into the graphics pipeline.
And 100% utilization speaks for good optimization or what would be your expectation for better optimization?
vanhouten_cz wrote: I really never had 90%+ GPU usage and temperature above 85°C in any other game. Working on full potential is good, but temperature is so high, that GPU is automatically underclocking to lower frequency. I would understand that GPU do this when settings are too high for this GPU, but on ultra settings + 400% scaling I have average more than 100 fps. If GPU is too weak for this setting, so FPS will be much lower.
Well, you can test it. Lowering the settings should increase FPS until you're CPU limited (easiest test would be to lower scaling). Once CPU limited, GPU load should decrease. Capping the FPS should also lower GPU load, e.g., by enabling V-Sync at 60 FPS.
But the balance you describe sounds plausible, as I said. 70 - 90°C is usually the designed temperature for GPUs these days and will be reached if it's fully utilized.

I don't quite understand what you are trying to achieve though? Less load at the cost of lower quality or lower FPS?

vanhouten_cz wrote: I want to say - game is using GPU more than is needed - my opinion.
In what sense? How do you come to that conclusion?

Is 95% GPU usage good?
vanhouten_czPosts: 112Joined: 03 Mar 2017 15:09Contact:
wato wrote: 70 - 90°C is usually the designed temperature for GPUs these days and will be reached if it's fully utilized.
Yes, 70-75 °C is good, but not 85°C, where GPU is self underclocking from 1830 MHz to 1500 Mhz because temperature is too high.
wato wrote: I don't quite understand what you are trying to achieve though? Less load at the cost of lower quality or lower FPS?
I want only the same like in other games - nice graphics, but lower loud - in any other game what I tested, GPU load wasnt pernamentely between 95-100%. 95%+ load=high temp=higest RPMs on fans=extremely loud, because from 80°C fans get over 2200 RPM, at 85°C are on max 3000 RPM.

For example (all games set to ultra + Scaling where is allowed, except MSFS)
BF5 - max 80%, temps to 72°C
Dirt Rally 2.0 - max 75%, temps to 70°C
New MS Flight Simulator - 85%, temps to 75°C
ARMA3 (all max) - 65%, temps to 68°C
Fallout 4 - 75%, temps to 70°C
ETS2 - 95-100%, temps above 82°C

Next thing - I noticed this problem after version 1.38 (when came SSAO). But on GPU load isnt difference with SSAO ON and SSAO OFF.

wato wrote: In what sense? How do you come to that conclusion?
Look above. Much newer games than ETS, but GPU isnt loaded to 100%

From now, it is only discusion about it. My problem is solved with active VSync and better GPU fans. I only try to understand this GPU behaviour. Why is in ETS sooooo different to other games. When I play any other game, I almost dont hear if PC is ON or OFF. Only when I play ETS (on stock GPU fans), is same like JumboJet starting from airport - regardless of used GPU - RX470 4 GB or GTX 1660 Super 6 GB. But on our local FB page, many people wrote that they have same problem like me. First I think, that I have some problem with my PC.


Is 95% GPU usage good?
plykkegaardPosts: 7197Joined: 26 Oct 2014 13:42Contact:

Out of curiosity, how do you monitor the GPU load?

The GTX 1080 TI in my rig is dead silent, but the CPU probably can't keep up, i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz, DDR3 1600 mounted on a MSI Z87-G45 MB

[EDIT]
I will try with the process monitor in Win 10